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1 some samples of shia sahih hadiths.. on Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:05 pm

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Earth is on whale:

Shia scholar Kulayni in his “Kafi” 8/89 narrated:

55 – محمد عن أحمد عن ابن محبوب عن جميل بن صالح عن أبان بن تغلب عن أبي عبد الله (ع) قال: سألته عن الأرض على أي شيء هي؟ قال: هي على حوت قلت: فالحوت على أي شيء هو؟ قال: على الماء قلت: فالماء على أي شيء هو؟ قال: على صخرة قلت: فعلى أي شيء الصخرة؟ قال: على قرن ثور أملس قلت: فعلى أي شيء الثور؟ قال: على الثرى قلت: فعلى أي شيء الثرى؟ فقال: هيهات عند ذلك ضل علم العلما
Muhammad reported from Ahmad, from ibn Mahbub, from Jamil ibn Salih, from Aban ibn Taghlib, from Abu ‘Abd Allah (upon whom be peace), who said, I asked him about the earth: Upon which does it stand forth? To which he replied: It stands forth upon a whale. I asked: Upon which does the whale stand forth? To which he replied: Upon water. I asked: Upon which does water stand forth? To which he replied: Upon a rock. I asked: Upon which does the rock stand forth? To which he replied: Upon a bull’s smooth horn. I asked: Upon which does the bull stand forth? To which he replied: Upon the ground. I asked: Upon which does the ground stand forth? To which he replied: What an idea? Therewith is lost the knowledge of the men of knowledge.

Other shia sheikh Al-Majlese in “Miratul uqul” said it’s saheeh.

(الحديث الخامس و الخمسون) [حديث الحوت على أي شي‏ء هو]
(2): صحيح.

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2 Re: some samples of shia sahih hadiths.. on Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:16 pm

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imam al Baqir - 50 years of ignorance in basic islamic rules:

Al-Kulayni narrated in his famous book “al-Kafi” 2/19/#6 such words of imam:
وَ كَانَتِ الشِّيعَةُ قَبْلَ أَنْ يَكُونَ أَبُو جَعْفَرٍ وَ هُمْ لَا يَعْرِفُونَ مَنَاسِكَ حَجِّهِمْ وَ حَلَالَهُمْ وَ حَرَامَهُمْ حَتَّى كَانَ أَبُو جَعْفَرٍ فَفَتَحَ لَهُمْ وَ بَيَّنَ لَهُمْ مَنَاسِكَ حَجِّهِمْ وَ حَلَالَهُمْ وَ حَرَامَهُمْ

In short he said: Shias before came imam al-Baqir didn’t know rituals of hajj, and didn’t know what is lawful and what is unlawful, and then Abu Jafar came and teach them rituals of haj, and what is lawful and what is unlawful.

Majlisi in his “Miratul uqul” said this hadith has a sahih chain.

Now calculate:
Prophet S.A.W. (pbuh) died in 11-th year of hijra.

Imam Abu Jafar al-Baqir was born in 56 year of hijra. Let us imagine that he started teaching shias when he was 5 years old. 56 plus 5 minus 11=50years. So in accordance to this hadith, 50 years shias spend in ignorance, without knowledge of hajj rituals and without any idea about halal or haram.



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3 Re: some samples of shia sahih hadiths.. on Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:20 pm

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Imam knew 70 000 000 languages:

Reported Kulayni in “Kafi” 1/462/#5:

5 – أحمد بن محمد ومحمد بن يحيى، عن محمد بن الحسن، عن يعقوب بن يزيد، عن ابن أبي عمير، عن رجاله، عن أبي عبدالله عليه السلام قال: إن الحسن عليه السلام قال: إن لله مدينتين إحداهما بالمشرق والاخرى بالمغرب، عليهما سور من حديد وعلى كل واحد منهما ألف ألف مصراع وفيها سبعون ألف ألف لغة، يتكلم كل لغة بخلاف لغة صاحبها وأنا أعرف جميع اللغات وما فيهما وما بينهما، وما عليهما حجة غيري وغير الحسين أخي.
Translation:

Ahmad ibn Muhammad and Muhammad ibn Yahya have narrated from Muhammad ibn al-Hassan from ya‘qub ibn Yazid from ibn abu ‘Umayr from his people from abu ‘Abdallah (a.s.) who has said the following. “Al-Hassan (a.s.) has said, ‘Allah has two cities. One is in the east and the other is in the west. They have a boundary around them that is made of iron and each one has a million doors. 70 000 000 different languages exist therein and i know all those languages and all that is therein. There is no one who would possess Leadership with Divine Authority except me and my brother, al-Husayn (a.s.).’

Most interesting that Majlesee in “Miratul uqul” (5/357) said hadeeth is saheeh.

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4 Re: some samples of shia sahih hadiths.. on Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:30 pm

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Day of Ashoora is for fasting:

ـ وبإسناده عن سعد بن عبدالله ، عن أبي جعفر ، عن جعفر بن محمد بن عبدالله ، عن عبدالله بن ميمون القداح ، عن جعفر ، عن أبيه ( عليهما السلام ) قال : صيام يوم عاشوراء كفارة سنة
(Shaykh Tusi) with his isnad from Sa`d b. Abdullah from Abu Ja`far from Ja`far b. Muhammad b. `Abdullah from `Abdullah b. Maymun al-Qaddah from Ja`far from his father (as). He said: Fasts of the day of `Ashura are an atonement (kaffara) of a year. (hadith is sahih)

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5 Re: some samples of shia sahih hadiths.. on Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:48 pm

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Urinated while standing:

Well first of all i would like to present shias fatwa from one of their top clerics, ayatolla Sistani.


السؤال: 26
هل يجوز التبول واقفاً في حال ضمان عدم وصول النجاسة الى الجسم او الملابس ؟
الفتوى:
يجوز .


Question 26 says:
“Is it permissible to urinate while standing with the assurances of being safe from tarnishing the body or the garment with impurity (Najasa)?
Answer:
It is permissible”.

click here: fatwa website of ayatullah sistani

After this fatwa, i would like to present shias hadith.

Muhammad ibn Yaqub al-Kulayni reported in “al-Kafi” vol 6, p 500, #12808, and Hurr al-Amili in “Wasael ush-shia” vol 1, p 352, #933:

علي بن إبراهيم، عن أبيه، عن ابن أبي عمير، عن رجل، عن أبي عبدالله (عليه السلام) قال: سألته عن الرجل يطلي فيبول وهو قائم؟ قال: لا بأس به.

(Chain) imam Abu Abdullah (as) was asked about man who urinated when he was standing, and he replied: No problem.

Muhammad Baqir Majlisi in “Miratul uqul” 22/402, said narration is hasan or said that it’s muwathaq.

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