HZ ALI(RA) DIDN’T HAVE ANY DIVINE BOOK EXCEPT QURAN: SO FROM WHERE CAME THE FORGERIES OF AL JAMIA OR MUSHNAF E FATIMA ETC?
SAHI MUSLIM Bk 7, Number 3163:
Ibrahim al−Taimi reported on the authority of his father: 'Ali b. Abi Talib (Allah be pleased with him) addressed us and said: He who thought that we have besides the Holy Qur'an anything else that we recite, he told a lie. And this document which is hanging by the sheath of the sword contains but the ages of the camels, and the nature of the wounds. He (Hadrat'Ali) reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying: Medina is sacred from 'Air to Thaur; So if anyone makes an innovation or accommodates an innovator, the curse of Allah, the angels, and all persons will fall upon him, and Allah will not accept any obligatory or supererogatory act as recompense from them. And the protection granted by the Muslims is one and must be respected by the humblest of them. If anyone makes a false claim to paternity, or being a client of other than his own masters, there is upon him the curse of Allah, the angels, and all the people. Allah will not accept from him any recompense in the form of obligatory acts or supererogatory acts. The hadith transmitted on the authority of Abu Bakr and Zabair ends with (these words): The humblest
among them should respect it; and what follows after it is not mentioned there, and in the hadith transmitted by them (these words are) not found: (The document was hanging) on the sheath of his sword.
BUKHARI
1.111:
Narrated Ash−Shu`bi: Abu Juhaifa said, "I asked `Ali, 'Have you got any book (which has been revealed to the Prophet apart from the Qur'an)?' `Ali replied, 'No, except Allah's Book or the power of understanding which has been bestowed (by Allah) upon a Muslim or what is (written) in this sheet of paper (with me).' Abu Juhaifa said, "I asked, 'What is (written) in this sheet of paper?' `Ali replied, it deals with The Diyya (compensation (blood money) paid by the killer to the relatives of the victim), the ransom for the releasing of the captives from the hands of the enemies, and the law that no Muslim should be killed in Qisas (equality in punishment) for the killing of (a disbeliever).
3.94:
Narrated `Ali:We have nothing except the Book of Allah and this written paper from the Prophet (wherein is written:) Medina is a sanctuary from the 'Air Mountain to such and such a place, and whoever innovates in it an heresy or commits a sin, or gives shelter to such an innovator in it will incur the curse of Allah, the angels, and all the people, none of his compulsory or optional good deeds of worship will be accepted. And the asylum (of protection) granted by any Muslim is to be secured (respected) by all the other Muslims; and whoever betrays a Muslim in this respect incurs the curse of Allah, the angels, and all the people, and none of his compulsory or optional good deeds of worship will be accepted, and whoever (freed slave) befriends (take as masters) other than his manumitters without their permission incurs the curse of Allah, the angels, and all the people, and none of his compulsory or optional good deeds of worship will be accepted.
COMMENTS: So the view of ahlebayt was that, they didnt have any other divine book except quran, so from where did the forgeries of the books like al jamia or mushnaf e fatima etc came? And that the 12th imam took them along with him. When according to ahlebayt they didnt even existed.
were these divine books were not for the ummah or general believers? can the shias point to us any book which was divine but was not for the believers in general?
And if mazallah hz ali(ra) was doing taqiyyah when he said this, then why would he say that the person who said that is a liar? he would simply deny it that was suffcient.
BUT THESE CLAIMS THAT HE HAD SOME DIVINE BOOKS WERE ACTUALLY MADE BY SABAIES(THE FOLLOWERS OF ABDULLAH IBN SABA) IT SEEMS THIS IS THE REASON HZ ALI(RA) HAD TO EXPOSED THEIR REAL FACES BY CALLING THEM LIARS. AND FORTUNATELY EVEN TODAY WE HAVE SOME OF THOSE LIARS PRESENT IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO HAS THE VERY SAME BELIEFS FOR WHICH HZ ALI(RA) INSULTED THEM AS LIARS.